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Victorian Coal-mining Company's Act of 1884 48 Vic (NSW)
An Act to authorize the construction and maintenance of a line of railway from land at Mount Kembla to the sea-coast at Port Kembla near Red Point near Wollongong.
Vicrortan Coa-
MINING CoMPANY'S
(No. 2).
Preamble.
An Act to authorize the construction and
maintenance of a line of railway from land
at Mount Kembla to the sea-coast at Port
Kembla near Red Point near Wollongong.
[29th August, 1884. |
Wren AS Thomas Saywell merchant of Sydney New South
Wales his heirs and assigns trading as the Victorian Coal-
mining Company hereinafter designated the Company is about to open
coal-mines on land situate nearMount Kembla in the County of Camden.
and is desirous of constructing « railway from the said coal-mines to
the sea-coast at Red Point through certain private lands referred to in
the Schedule to this Act but such railway cannot be made without
Legislative authority And whereas the said coal-mincs are likely to
prove beneficial to the Colony and the public are concerned in promoting
such an increase in the facilities for the supply of coal for local
consumption steam navigation and export as would result from the
construction of the said proposed railway it is therefore desirable to
authorize by Legislative enactment the construction of the said railway
subject to the provisions hereinafter contained upon payment of
compensation to the several parties through whose lands the same shall
pass for such portions of their respective lands as may be required to
be used or occupied thereby Be it therefore enacted by the Queen's
Most
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Most Uxeellent Majesty by and with the advice and consent of the
Legislative Council and Legislative Assembly of New South Wales in in
Parliament assembled and by the authority of the same as follows
1. It shall be lawful for the Company to make and construct a
railway from lands belonging to the Company through lands belonging
to Messrs. Matthew Reen M* Loy Farrvaher Blackman O'Brien (i. Waples
Nicolle Cummins Jenkins Darcy Wentworth and the Mount Kembla
Coal and Oil Company to the waters of the Pacific Occan more
particularly described in the First Schedule hereto and to take and use
so much of the said lands as the said Company may require for the
purpose of such railway in the line described in the First Schedule
hereto not execeding in any part thereof a greater space in breadth
than sixty-six feet including the supports abutments and foundations
of the said railway but as to the lands specified in the agreement in
the Second Schedule hereto (parcel of the lands in the First Schedule
only upon the terms and conditions therein contained Provided that
the said railway shall he constructed and brought into use within the
term of three years from the passing of this Act and that in default
thereof or if after its completion the said railway shall cease to be
used for three years continuously all the said lands and all the said
Company's interest and estate therein shall revert without any con-
veyance to the original owners thereof their heirs and assigns.
2. It shall be lawful for the said Company to construct at the
terminus of the said railway at Red Point aforesaid such wharf or
wharves jetty or jetties and picr or picrs as the said Company may
think necessary for the purpose of shipping the products of the said
mines Provided that no part of any such wharf or jetty shall approach
within onc thousand two hundred feet of any part of the existing pier
belonging to the " Mount Kembla Coal and Oil Company (luimited)."
8. So much of the lands of the said owners or other persons
(other than those lands mentioned and referred to in the said agree-
ment in the said Second Schedule hereto) as shall be taken or used
by the Company under the provisions of this Act for the purpose
of the said railway with such right of ingress egress and regress
upon the adjacent lands as may be necessary for the making and
repair of the said railway shall by virtue of this Act and without
the necessity of any conveyance he vested in the Company Provided
that if in the exercise of the powers hereby granted it be found
necessary to cross-cut through raise sink shut or use any part. of
any road whether carriage road or horse road so as to render it
impassable or dangerous or inconvenient to the persons entitled to
the use thereof or to divert the corse or direction of any ereck or
watercourse the Company shall before the commencement of any such
operations cause a sufficient road or new ereck or watercourse to be
made instead of any road or creck or watercourse interfered with and
shall at their own expense maintain such substituted road in a state as
convenient as the road interfered with or as nearly as may be And
the Company before they use the said lands for any of the purposes
aforesaid shall if required so to do separate the same by a sufficient
fence from the land adjoining thereto with such gates as may be
required for the convenient occupation of such land and shall' also
to all private roads used by them as aforesaid put up fences and gates
in like manner in all eases where the same may be neecssary to prevent
the straying of cattle from or upon the lands traversed by such roads
and in case of any difference between the owners or occupiers of such
roads and lands and the Company as to the necessity for such fences
and gates such fences and gates shall be put up by the Company as two
Justices of the Peace shall deem necessary for the purposes aforesaid
on application being made to them. 4,
Authority to
construct railway to
connect same with
the sea-coast.
Power to construct
wharves,
Tands yested in the
Company without
conveyance,
Railway open to the
public.
Branch railways.
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4. The railway shall be at all times open to the public upon
payment of a toll to the Company of twopence per ton per mile in
respect of every ton of goods for every transit the party seeking transit
supplying and loading his own trucks or waggons and the Company
supplying locomotive power (being thereunto required by the party
secking transit twenty-four hours at least previously) And such supply
of locomotive power shall not be compulsory on the Company unless
the party seeking transit guarantec and bring one hundred tons at the
least during the twelve w orking hours to be mentioned in such notice
But it shall be compulsory on the Company to carry any quantity not
less than forty tons if the locomotive be actually at work and all trucks
when empty shall be conveyed on their return free of cost The railway
shall he at all times open to the public upon payment of a toll to the
Company of one penny per ton per mile in respect of every ton of goods
for every transit if the party seeking transit supply the locomotive
power as well as trucks or waggons Provided that so long as the
Company shall supply locomotive power no other person shall usc loco-
motive powerontheline Provided that if the railway shall be damaged
by parties who shall themselves use the railway for transit and supply
locomotive power the Company shall be entitled to compensation for
such damage to he recovered cither by action in the Supreme Court of
New South Wales or if such damage do not exceed the sum of twenty
pounds summarily before two Justices and in estimating such damage
the Company shall be entitled not only to compensation for the cost of
repairing and restoring the railway but to the consequential damage
(if any) sustained by reason of the suspension of transit or otherwise
After the railway shall have been opencd for transit the Company shall
continuc to provide the locomotive power required for using the same
(accidents excepted) until twenty-cight days notice shallhave been given
by them by advertisement in the New South Wales Government Gazette
that they intend after the expiration of a day to be named in such notice
to suspend or discontinue working the railway or supplying the necessary
locomotive power thereon whereupon it shall be lawful for any person
entitled to use the railway to provide locomotive power such person
paying the toll hereinbefore mentioned to be payable in such event
Provided that any person interested in using the railway upon giving
to the Company three calendar months notice in writing of his intention
so to do may make application to the Executive Council of New South
Wales to reduce the tolls limited by this Act and to create a new scale
applicable to the traffic on the said railway such new scale being below
the scale limited by this Act and it shall thereupon be lawful for the
said Council to reduce the tolls as in the judgment of the said Council
shall be reasonable Provided that the clear divisible profits of the
railway shall be annually made good to the Company by the persons
using the said railway at the rate of twenty pounds for every one
hundred pounds by the year of the capital proved by the Company
to have been expended by them in or about the construction of the
railway after debiting'the railway with the cost of maintaining the line
in proper working order and crediting the railway with the carriage
obtained by the Company at the rate aforesaid.
5. It shall be lawful for the owners or occupiers of the lands
traversed by the said railway to lay down upon their own lands any
collateral branches of railways to communicate with the said railway
for the purpose of bringing carriages to or from or upon the said rail-
way and the Company shall if required at the expense of such owncrs
or ocewpicrs make openings in the rails and such additional railways
as may he necessary for effecting such communication in places where
the communication can be made with safety to the public and without.
injury to the said railway and without inconvenience to the traffic
thereupon
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thereupon and the Company shall not take any rate or toll or other
moneys for the passing of any passengers goods or other things along
any branch so to be made by any such owner or occupicr or other
person but this enactment shall be subject to the following restrictions
and conditions (that is to say)—
The Company shall not be bound to make any such openings in
any place which they shall have sect apart for any specific
purpose with which such communication would interfere nor
upon any bridge nor in any tunnel.
The persons making or using such branch railways shall be
subject to all by- laws and regulations of the Company from
time to time made with respect to passing upon or crossing
the railways and otherwise and the persons making or using
such branch railways shall be bound to construct and from
time to time as need may require to renew the off-set. slates
and switches according to the most approved plan adopted
by the Company undcr the direction of their engincer.
6. It shall be lawful for but not compulsory upon the said
Company from time to time and at any and all times to carry passengers
and live stock upon the said railways or any part thereof respectively
and to make demand take receive and recover such tolls or ducs for
carrying the same at such rates per mile or other scale of charges as
shall be established from time to time by the Directors of the Company
for or in respect of all such passengers and live stock which shall be
conveyed or transported upon such railways or cither of them or any
part thereot respectively And the Directors are hereby authorized to
make such by-laws and regulations not inconsistent with this Act as
may be necessary for the regulation of such. traffic and such by-laws or
regulations shall be binding upon all persons using or travelling upon
the said railways and any persons offending against such by-laws or
regulations shall be liable to a fine not exceeding ten pounds for cach
offence to be recovered in a summary way before any two Justices
Provided always that if the rates tolls or dues that may be established
as aforesaid under and by virtue of this Act shall be found excessive
it shall and may be lawful for the Executive Council to reduce the
said rates tolls or ducs and to revise them in such manner as may scem
most proper and advisable And it is hereby provided that nothing in
this Act contained shall extend tochargeor makeliable the said Company
further or in any other case than. where accor ding to the laws of this
Colony stage-coach proprictors and common carricrs would be liable nor
shall oxtend in ¢ any degrce to deprive the said Company of any protection
or privilege which common carriers or stage-coach proprietors may be
entitled to but on the contrary the Company shall at all times he
entitled to the benefit of every such protection and privilege.
7. For the purposes and subject to the provisions "hereinafter
contained it shall be lawful for the Company their deputics agents
servants and workmen and all other persons by them authorized and
empowered to divert or alter the cowrse of any roadway or water-
course crossing the railways or either of them or to raise sink or divert
any roadway or watercourse in order the more conveniently to carry
the same over or under or by the side of the railways or cither of them.
8. If the Company do not cause another sufficient road or new
creck or watercourse to he so made before they interfere with any such |
existing road creck or watercourse as aforesaid they shall forfeit
twenty pounds for every day during which such substituted road creck
or watercourse shall not be made after the existing road creek or
watercourse shall have been interrupted and such penalties shall be
paid to the Trustees Commissioners Surveyor or other persons having
the management of such road if a public road and shall be applied for
the
Right to carry
passengers.
Power to divert or
alter roads or water+
courses.
Penalty for not sube
stituting roads or
watercourses.
Repairs of roads.
Bridges to be con-
structed where the
railways cross high-
way.
Owners and
occupiers crossing.
Provision in cases
where Government
railways are crossed
on a level.
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the purposes thereof or in case of a private road the same shall be paid
to the owner thereof and every such penalty shall be recoverable with
costs by action in any of the superior Courts.
'9. If in the course of making the said railways or either o
them the Company shall use or interfere with 2 any road they shall from
time to time make good all damage done by them to such road and if
any question shall arise as to the damage done to any such road by
the Company or as to the repair thereot' "by them such' question shal
be referred to the determination of two Justices and such Justices may
dircet such repair to be made in the state of such road in respect o
damage done by the Company and within such period as they may
think reasonable and may impose on the Company for not carrying
into effect such repairs any penalty not exceeding ten pounds per day
as to such Justices shail seem fit and any such penalty shall be paid
to the surveyor or other person having the management of the road
interfered with by the Company if a public road and be applied for the
purposes of such road or if a private road the same shall be paid to the
owner thereof Provided always the said Justices shall have regard to
and shall make full allowance for any tolls that may have been paid
by the Company on such road in the course of using thereof.
10. If the railways cross any public highway or parish road then
either such road shall be carried over the railways or the railways shall
be carried over such road by means of a bridge of the height and width
and with the ascent or descent by this Act in that behalf hereinafter
provided and such bridge with the immediate approaches and all other
necessary works connected therewith shall be executed by and be at all
times thereafter maintained at the expense of the Company Provided
that with the consent of two Justices it shall be lawful for the Com-
pany to carry the railways across any highway on the level.
11. Until the Company shall have made the bridges or other
proper communications which they shall under the provisions herein
contained have been required to make between lands intersected by the
railways and no longer the owners and occupiers of such lands and any
other persons whose right-of-way shall be affected by the want of such
communications and their respective servants may at all times frecly
pass-and repass with carriages horses and other animals directly but not
otherwise across any part "of the railways made in or through their
respective lands solely for the purpose of oceupying the same lands or
for the exercise of such right-of-way and so as not to obstruct the
passage along the railways or to damage the same nevertheless if the
owner or occupier of any such land have in his arrangements with the
Company received or agreed to receive compensation for or on account
of any such communications instcad of the same being formed such
owner or occupier or those claiming under him shall not be entitled so
to cross the railways.
12. The Company shail subject to regulations to be made from
time to time by the Commissioner for Railways and approved by the
Governor and Exccutive Council have power to cross the Illawarra
railway line on the level in such manner as shall be approved by the
Commissioner for Railways And the rails for such crossing shall be
laid down at the expense of the said Company under and subject to
the direction and approval of the Commissioner for Railways and for
that purpose to lay down such rails and execute such other works as
shall be necessary for the purpose of such crossing Provided that the
said Company shall before they shall be at liberty to cross the said
railway erect upon their own land and at all times thereafter maintain
a suitable station or lodge at the place where the said Company's rail-
way shall cross the Illawarra railway on the level and shall also erect
and maintain all neecssary signals that is to say all junction or crossing
signals
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signals and two distance signals at the said crossing And "the said
Company shall employ and constantly keep employ ed at their own
expense at the said crossings fit and proper persons to attend to such
signals and the person so employed shall act under and in accordance
with the regulations to be made by the Commissioner for Railways
and approved by the Governor and Exccutive Council as aforesaid.
18. If the railway cross any private vailway or public highway Provisions in onses
or parish road on a level the Company shall erect and at all. times framways ov private
maintain good and sullicient gates across such road on each side of the railways are crossed
railways w vhere the same shall communicate therewith and shall employ "2h
proper persons to open and shut such gates and such gates shall be
constantly kept closed across such road on both sides of the railways
except during the time when. horses cattle carts or carriages passing
along the same shall have to cross such railways and such gates shall
be of such dimensions and so constructed as when closed to fence in the
railways and prevent zattle or horses passing along the road from
entcring upon the railways and the person entrusted with the care of
such gates shall cause the same to be closed as soon as such horses cattle
earts or carriages shall have passed through the same under a penalty
of forty shillings for every default therein Provided always that it shall
be lawful for the Scerctary for Public Works in any case in which he
shall be satisfied that it will be more conducive to the public safety that
the gates on any level crossing over any such road shall be kept closed
across the railways to order that such gates shall be kept so closed
instead of across the road and in such case such gates shall be kept
constantly closed across the railway except when engines or carriages
passing along the railways shall have occasion to cross such road in the
same manner and under the like penalty as above directed with respec
to the gates being kept closed across the road And the Company shal
ie
g
either by themselves or jointly with any other Company employ proper
persons to look after such gates and signals as may be ordered by and
to the satisfaction of the Commissioner for Railways.
14. In case of accidents or slips happening or being apprehended Power to enter upon
to the cuttings embankments or other works of the said railways it shal mejnit evident
be lawful for the Company and their workmen and servants to enter subject to certain
upon the land adjoining thercto at any time whatsoever for the purpose *"""™™
of repairing or preventing such accidents and to do such works as may
be necessary for the purpose but in every case the Company shal
within forty-eight hours after such entry make a report to the Secretary
for Public Works specifying the nature of such accident or apprehended
accident and of the works necessary to be done and such powers shal
ecase and determine if the said Secretary shall after considering the saic
report certify that their exercise is not necessary for ihe public safety
Provided also that such works shall be as little injurious to the adjoining
lands as the nature of accident or apprehended accident will admit of
and shall be executed with all possible despatch and full compensation
shall be made to the owners and occupiers of such lands for the loss or
injury or inconvenience sustained by them respectively by reason of
such works the amount of which compensation i in case of any dispute
about the same shall be settled by arbitrators in the manner hereinafter
mentioned and provided also that no land shall be taken permanently
for any such works otherwise than is hercin provided with respect to
the lands originally taken for the purpose of making the said railways.
15. Every bridge to be erected for the purpose of carrying the Construction of
railways over any road shall be built in conformity with the following bridges over roads.
regulations that is to say :—
The width of the arch shall be such as to leave thereunder a clear
space of not less than thirty feet if the arch be overa public
highway and of twenty feet if over a parish road and of
twelve fect if over a private road.
The
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The clear height of the arch from the surface of the road shall not
be less than sixteen feet for a space of twelve feet if the arch
be over a main road and fifteen feet for a space of ten fect if
over a public carriage road and in each of such cases the
clear height at the springing of the arch shall not be less than
twelve feet the clear height of the arch for a space of nine
feet shall not he less than fourteen feet over a private road.
The descent made in the road in order to carry the same under the
bridge shall not be more than one foot in thirty fect if the
bridge be over a public highway one foot in twenty feet if
over a parish road and one foot in sixteen if over a private
road not being a tramroad or railroad or if the same be a
tramroad or railroad the descent shall not be greater than
the ruling gradient of such tramroad or railroad.
Construction of 16. Every bridge erected for carrying any road over the railway
bridges over railroad. shall be built inconformity with the following regulations that isto say—
There shall be a good and sufficient fence on each side of the bridge
of not less height than four feet and on each side of the imme-
diate approaches of such bridge of not less than three feet.
The road over the bridge shall have a clear space between the
fences thereof of thirty-five feet if the road be a public
highway and twenty-five feet if a parish road and twelve feet
if a private road.
The ascent shall not be more than one foot in thirty feet if the
road be a main road one foot in twenty feet if a parish road
and one foot in sixteen if a private road not being a tram-
road or railroad or if the same be a tramroad or railroad the
ascent shall not be greater than the ruling gradient of such
tramroad or railroad.
The width of the 17, Provided always that in all cases where the average available
bridges need rey of Width for the passing of carriages of any existing road within fifty
the road in certain yards of the points of crossing the same is less than the width herein-
cases: before prescribed for bridges over or under the railways the width of
such bridges need not be greater than such average available width of
such roads but so nevertheless that such bridges be not of less width in
case of a public highway or parish road than twenty feet Provided
also that if at any time after the construction of the railways the
average available width of any such road shall be increased beyond the
width of such bridge on either side thercof the Company shall he
bound at their own expense to increase the width of the said bridge to
such extent as they may be required by the trustecs or surveyors of
such road not exceeding the width of such road as so widened or the
maximum width herein prescribed for a bridge in the like case over or
under the railways.
Existing inclination 18. Provided also that if the mean inclination of any road within
Singtel org Or ae two hundred and fifty yards of the point of crossing the same or the
improved. inclination of such portion of any road as may be required to be altered
or for which another road shall be substituted shall be steeper than the
inclination hereinbefore requiréd to he preserved by the Company then
the Company may carry any such road over or under the railways or
may construct such altcred or substituted road at any inclination not
steeper than the said mean inclination of the road so to be crossed
or of the road so requiring to be altered or for which another road shall
be substituted.
Works for benefit, of 19. The Company shall make and at all times thereafter main-
owners: tain the following works for the accommodation of owners and occu-
piers of lands adjoining the railways that is to say—
Gates bridges &e. Such and so many convenient gates bridges arches culverts and
passages over undcr or by the sides of or leading to or from
the
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All sufficient posts rails hedges ditches mounds or other fences Fenees.
Also all necessary arches tunnels culverts drains or other passages Drains.
the railways as shall be necessary for the purpose of making
good any interruptions caused by the railways to the use of
the lands or any streets not diverted under the powers herein
contained through which the railways shall be made and such
works shall be made forthwith after the part of the railways
passing over such lands shall have been laid out or formed or
during the formation thereof.
for separating the land taken for the use of the railways from
the adjoining lands not taken and protecting such lands from
trespass or the cattle of the owners or occupiers thereof from
straying thercon by reason of the railways together with all
necessary gatcs made to open towards such adjoining lands
~ and not toy wards the railways and all necessary stiles and such
posts rails and other fences shall be made forthwith after the
taking of any such lands if the owners thereof shall so require
and the said other works as soon as conveniently may be.
either over or under or by the sides of the railways of such
dimensions as will be sufficient at all times to convey the
water as clearly from the lands lying near or affected hy the
railways as before the making of the railways or as nea wly so
as may be and such works shall be made from time to time
as the railway works proceed.
Also proper watering-places for cattle or compensation in lic Watcring-places.
20. If any person omit to shut and
thereof where by reason of the railways the cattle of any person
occupying any lands lying near thereto shall be deprived of
aceess to their former watering-places and such watering-
places shall be so made as to be at all times sufficiently
supplied with water as heretofore and as if the railways had
not been made or as nearly soas may be and the said Com-
pany shall make all necessary watercourses and drains for the
purpose of conveying water to the said watering-places Pro-
vided always that the Company shall not be required to make
such accommodation works in such a manner as would prevent
or obstruct the working or using of the railways nor to make
any accommodation works with respect to which the owners
and occupiers of the land shall have agreed to receive and
shall have been paidcompensation instead of themaking them.
fasten any gate sct up at Penalty on persons
either side of the said railways for the accommodation of the owners or "tilting to fasten
occupiers of the adjoining lands as soonas he and the carriage cattle or
other animals if any under his care have passed through the same he
shall forfeit for every such offence any sum not exceeding ten pounds.
gates,
21. The Company shall not be entitled to any mines of coal Minerals not to pass.
ironstone slate or other minerals under any land vested in them by
virtue of this Act execpt only such parts thereof as shall be necessary
to he dug or carried away in the construction of the works hereby
authorized.
22. If within twenty-eight days after the passing of this Act Arbvitrations.
the said persons through whose lands the railroad shall pass or any of
them and the promoters shall not agree as to the amount of compen-
sation to he paid by them for the "said lands belonging to the said
parties or any of them or for any damage that may be sustained by
them or him by reason of the execution of the works the amount of
such compensation shall be settled by two arbitrators one to be
appointed by the party or partics complaining and the other by the
Company in accordance with the provisions of the Act thirty-first
Victoria number fifteen "An Act to make Arbitrations more effectual."
23.
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Compensation for 23. The Company shall make compensation and satisfaction to
temporary permanent the said owners and occupiers (the amount of such compensation and
or recurring Injuries. . . . . ord .
satisfaction to be ascertained and recovered in case of difference in the
manner hercby provided) for temporary permanent or recurring injury
and all other damage loss costs charges and inconvenience which may
in anywisc he occasioned to the said owners or occupiers by the non-
Compensation to be Performance by the said Company of any of the matters and things
pore ia dala hereby required to be performed by them or otherwise In every case
: where the Company shall take temporary possession of lands by virtue
of the powers hereby granted it shall be incumbent on them within
one month after their entry upon such lands upon being required so to
do to pay to the occupier of the said lands the value of any crop or
dressing that may be thereon as well as full compensation for any other
damage of a temporary nature which he may sustain by reason of their
so taking possession of his lands and they shall also from time to time
during their occupation of the said lands pay half-yearly to such occupier
or to the owner of the lands as the case may require a rent to be fixed
by two Justices in case the parties differ and shallalso within six months
atter the completion of the railway pay to such owner and occupier or
deposit in the Bank for the benefit of all parties interested as the case
may require compensation for all permanent or other loss damage or
injury that may have been sustained by them by reason of the exercise
as regards the said lands of the powers hereby granted including the
full value of all clay stone gravel sand and other things taken from
such lands.
Company may make 24. For the purpose of regulating the conduct of the officers
by-laws, and servants of the Company and for providing for the due manage-
ment of the affairs of the Company in all respects it shall be lawful for
the Company subject to the provisions herein mentioned from time to
time to make such by-laws and regulations as they shall think fit
Provided that such by-laws be not repugnant to the laws of the Colony
or to the provisions of this Act or to any resolutions of any general
meeting of shareholders and such by-laws shall be reduced into writing
and shall have affixed thereto the common seal of the Company and a
copy of such by-laws shall be given to every officer and servant of the
Company affected thereby and such by-laws may specify a maximum
and minimum penalty for a
